tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post5843137170492436067..comments2023-10-07T05:35:26.974-07:00Comments on A Baha'i Perspective of Islam: Islam, the Baha'i Faith and the Eternal Covenant of AlastSusan Maneckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12808387897564447194noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-49144919622432552042014-04-12T20:31:22.673-07:002014-04-12T20:31:22.673-07:00Thanks Sambara. I haven't added much to this b...Thanks Sambara. I haven't added much to this blog in the last couple of years but I plan to put up something which compares Islamic and Baha'i concepts of the proper relationship between religion and state. Susan Maneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808387897564447194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-17100662549979365582014-03-09T13:39:25.177-07:002014-03-09T13:39:25.177-07:00informative post
I love Islam and want know more a...informative post<br />I love Islam and want know more and more about Islam<br />Today i have visited your Islamic Blog and feeling good to see your collections about Islam. <br /><br />Please share more things about the Islam.<br /><a href="http://alislamstuff.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">MP3 Naat And Videos</a>Sambarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16473582043167842870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-3840653684386137082011-07-23T21:07:04.976-07:002011-07-23T21:07:04.976-07:00Islam is the monotheistic religion articulated by ...<a href="http:/onlyislamic.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Islam</a> is the monotheistic religion articulated by the Qur'an, a text considered by its adherents to be the verbatim word of God.joshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06461710811937216202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-19123429390520137622011-04-23T22:24:29.769-07:002011-04-23T22:24:29.769-07:00Hi Fahim,
Islam guides us to the path of all the M...Hi Fahim,<br />Islam guides us to the path of all the Messengers amongst whom is His holiness Baha'u'llah.<br />Kind regards,<br />Daniel.Daniel De Molhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11736929349071460221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-21182643816058185452011-02-22T03:03:59.223-08:002011-02-22T03:03:59.223-08:00Islam is the religion of peace and tolerance and g...Islam is the religion of peace and tolerance and guides us the true path the path of <br /><a href="http://www.learningquranonline.com" rel="nofollow">learn quran online</a><br /><a href="http://www.readquranonline.net" rel="nofollow">read quran online</a><br /><a href="http://www.read-quranonline.com" rel="nofollow">listen quran online</a>Fahim kamran mirzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15600134826530932863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-56509329504323432252010-07-21T18:20:06.119-07:002010-07-21T18:20:06.119-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-56180942050883483032010-07-09T21:59:10.353-07:002010-07-09T21:59:10.353-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-24683654589972906342010-07-07T16:59:14.513-07:002010-07-07T16:59:14.513-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-88089962352703610782010-06-14T00:10:06.871-07:002010-06-14T00:10:06.871-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.sdashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14857875356484643588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-76781910326700727892010-06-13T22:53:53.137-07:002010-06-13T22:53:53.137-07:00Dear Philosphyisme,
I'm not sure we can say ...Dear Philosphyisme, <br /><br />I'm not sure we can say that there is one specific "Baha'i perspective" on hadith. As Baha'is we have our own shariah or sacred law and are not bound by laws found either in the Qur'an or the hadith since we believe many of these were intended for an earlier time and place. Those laws which were universal in nature have been reiterated in our own scriptures. While in Islam much of the shariah is derived from both scripture and the hadiths, i.e. oral sources, Baha'is only accept as authoritative what has been put in writing by Baha'u'llah or those to whom He gave authority to interpret, namely 'Abdu'l-Baha and Shoghi Effendi. Oral accounts from any of these people, which we call Pilgrim's Notes have no authority in matters of faith or practice. So hadiths would not be sources of law for us. How we might use hadith for understanding Islam is a bit of different question, and it is easier for me to answer as an academic rather than a Baha'i per se. As an academic I cannot regard hadiths as having anywhere near the reliability as the Qur'an. While the Qur'an reaches its final form within a generation after the Prophet's passing and shows all the signs of a single authorship, the hadiths were compiled centuries after the Prophet and are often quite anachronistic in their content matter. I am not at all persuaded that the traditional Islamic methods of isnad criticism are sufficient to determine the historicity of particular hadiths. At the same time I do not subscribe to the 'Qur'an alone' school because it is nearly impossible to make sense of the Qur'an or to understand its context without at least some reference to hadith. What I've notice about those groups of Muslims who subscribe to this school is that it has given their leaders a tremendous amount of latitude to interpret the Qur'an anyway they wish and they often do so in ways I find quite idiosyncratic. <br /><br />As I indicated in another post what I would personally like to see evolve is a new science of hadith using modern methods of higher criticism such as have been applied to biblical studies. I would not use this new science of hadith, as Muslims do the traditional science, for legal purposes, for as I said, Baha'is have their own shariah. What I would like to use it for is to better understand the historical Muhammad. While not all or even most of the hadiths can be traced back to the Prophet's time, at least some of them can and if we can sort those out they are invaluable as historical sources. I feel the same way about what Baha'is call Pilgrim's Notes, personal accounts of what various Baha'is remember about one of the Central Figures of our Faith. Just because they cannot be considered authoritative sources in matters of faith and practice does not mean they are not invaluable historically speaking.Susan Maneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808387897564447194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-7517721177427021412010-05-04T22:30:41.436-07:002010-05-04T22:30:41.436-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-38426571969504060412010-04-29T20:02:07.621-07:002010-04-29T20:02:07.621-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-16873885235308916592010-03-27T20:14:22.616-07:002010-03-27T20:14:22.616-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-52929143221930485342010-01-07T08:57:31.172-08:002010-01-07T08:57:31.172-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-81349659763941474952009-10-07T09:43:17.835-07:002009-10-07T09:43:17.835-07:00Hello,
I had a discussion with a former Muslim fr...Hello,<br /><br />I had a discussion with a former Muslim friend of mine about the Hadith. I would like to know more information about the Baha’i perspective of the Hadith. Would you be able to suggest some Writings I may deepen upon and share with this friend?<br /><br />Thank you.Katie Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03605733523888296663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-49716358773912880002009-03-21T19:38:00.000-07:002009-03-21T19:38:00.000-07:00You have written an exceptional article explaining...You have written an exceptional article explaining the Eternal Covenant. With meditation when both our inner and outer response to the Call/Question of God are aligned; as above so below, the spark of Remembrance is born as the sacred flame. The last sentence sums up the enormity of the path of true unity. Many Thanks.K Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258402666605285674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-8087038971417184572009-02-11T17:26:00.000-08:002009-02-11T17:26:00.000-08:00Dear Owen, You are precisely right about the assoc...Dear Owen, <BR/><BR/>You are precisely right about the association of Questions with the Covenant. Masa'il refers precisely to that primordial question, "Am I not your Lord?" <BR/><BR/>warmest, SusanSusan Maneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808387897564447194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-26313946584639488422009-02-11T16:41:00.000-08:002009-02-11T16:41:00.000-08:00What a beautiful commentary. It provoked so many o...What a beautiful commentary. It provoked so many other connections in my mind. One of these, the naming of a Baha'i Month as Masa'il (Questions), for if the months are named for attributes of God, Questions seems a strange attribute, except in this case in which God is the Questioner of humanity. Another is that the Aboriginal people of Australia have a religious notion called Alcheringa, often translated as Dreaming or Dreamtime, but those who have developed a deeper relationship with Aboriginal elders have come to understood this, not as a set of ancient mythologies, but as a living vision replete with prohecies and adaptations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-28580348976353705332009-02-11T02:17:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:17:00.000-08:00Susan, thank you so much for giving us such a clea...Susan, thank you so much for giving us such a clear explanation of the context of the Covenant. I very much agree with Alison's comment about the importance of your new blog and look forward to reading more.<BR/><BR/>--Barney LeithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-72904713325280801942009-02-10T14:59:00.000-08:002009-02-10T14:59:00.000-08:00Dear Susan, I think what you're doing with your bl...Dear Susan, <BR/><BR/>I think what you're doing with your blog is wonderful. I feel strongly that, if Westerners are to embrace the Faith, then we must explain in plain English the Islamic context in which it is embedded. Your entry on the covenant is one I have wanted to write for ages but I don't have the background knowledge that you do. You are in a good position to explain these things and I'm, frankly, delighted you've decided to do this in a format that people can easily access.<BR/><BR/>Alison MarshallAlison Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790904580464149790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3915987055785965548.post-22371960745008216182009-02-09T20:46:00.000-08:002009-02-09T20:46:00.000-08:00Beautifully written. Thanks for this very comprehe...Beautifully written. Thanks for this very comprehensive treatment of the subject.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03037980396591633235noreply@blogger.com